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Comment from: doug [Visitor]
so i guess you want me to weigh in on the subject.

i can't really give you any good reasons (that aren't selfish) why vegetarianism is bad as long as you get enough of your daily/weekly vitamins.

i can tell you that the "weakest" argument is the one that the (what i will call) "tree huggers" use. animal rights. it makes sense and all, but is very hard to argue for (if you try to do so you will see why).

the strongest argument for vegetarianism is economy. like it would be easier/cheaper for everyone in the world to eat if we all stopped relying upon sentient beings for food. we feed the cows so that we can eat the cows. stop feeding the cows and grow something that we eat instead.

a really good argument to finish out a solid one-two-punch with the economy argument is health. it is healthier to go vegetarian, given that you don't consume too much bleached white rice and other starches AND that you get all of your daily/weekly vitamins. humans can only digest 3 ounces of meat in one sitting, all of the rest of it directly turns into fat or poo (and not the cleansing fiberous kind either). those two are the best debate style arguments for vegetarianism, and haven't really had anyone give me too much hassle after i explain those reasons.

the very best reason of course is "because i feel like it" which no argument can penetrate. but of course that tends to work for all things that you do to yourself which doesn't involve or impact anyone else. it also tends to irritate debaters, which is loads of fun to do.

so, i can't give you an argument against vegetarianism because... i can't think of any and haven't been presented with any that have values that correlate with my own.

-doug
03/03/06, a Friday @ 13:28
Comment from: Nick [Visitor]
I think it's good that you are trying it out Billy, especially in the context of Lent since we usually go back, in some measure, to the things we give up. It's funny, in my nutrition class the younger vegitarians are very adament and the older they get the more they allow for "exceptions". It makes sense in a larger context when you understand what you are putting in your body. A couple of pieces of meat a week wouldn't put too much strain on economy or your heart valves I'd imagine
03/07/06, a Tuesday @ 12:54
Comment from: doug [Visitor]
see, no real arguments against it and (like most carni/omnivores) he seems to dismiss your choice as childish and unimportant. little does he know that it's not just one person eating "a couple pieces of meat a week" it's all of us. human nature being what it is, we wouldn't be able to conrol our intake, just like now.

i see this argument as the author giving up and conceding without having to actually sound like he is.

evasion is cute, but often makes one look weak and scared.
03/07/06, a Tuesday @ 13:14
Comment from: Another Cadaver [Visitor]
Interesting. Judaic scholars sometimes explain Talmudic regulations on food (no pork, no shellfish, kosher slaughter of animals) as God's way of limiting humanity's intake of meat. As they see it, God wants all persons to be vegetarian, but He also realizes they have an inherent blood-lust, so He restricts the meats we can eat as a way to limit our consumption.

Of course, the Marxist view is simple to admire if we believe animals have any value above that of renewable resources.

Then again, canine teeth and incisors seem to indicate that humanity have been eating flesh for quite some time. Who are we to argue with millions of years of natural selection? I mean, the probability seems against you. Have faith in numbers!

Happy Lenten season--did you check out that wicked-awesome Good Friday card? Joyful, to say the least. Anniversary? Of the death of Our Lord? Here's a card!

Remember, Billy, we say it every Sunday: "Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed."

And for beeauty, listen to the actual song. Perfection.

You'll walk unscathed through musket fire,
No ploughman's blade will cut thee down,
No cutless wound will mark thy face
And you will be my ain true love,
And you will be my ain true love

And as you walk through death's dark veil,
The cannon's thunder can't prevail,
And those who hunt thee down will fail,
And you will be my ain true love,
And you will be my ain true love.

Asleep inside the cannon's mouth,
The captain cries, "Here comes the rout,"
They'll seek to find me north and south,
I've gone to find my ain true love.

The field is cut and bleeds to red.
The cannon balls fly round my head,
The infirmary man may count me dead,
When I've gone to find my ain true love,
I've gone to find my ain true love
03/07/06, a Tuesday @ 13:55
Comment from: Amy [Visitor] · http://www.myspace.com/andelise
BILLY! are you going to be at the OU debate camp?!
03/09/06, a Thursday @ 19:54

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